These are the choke styles for the Dickinson T1000 and the Stoeger.ĭickinson on the left, Stoeger on the right - different thread pitches. Is there any downside to inertial triggers? In fact, if you only want to shoot the top barrel, just open the barrels that far to load the top barrel and it will only cock the top hammer (you can hear the hammers cocking as you open it past each barrel), then it doesn't dry-fire the bottom barrel, it just fires the top barrel. My Condor is supposed to have inertial triggers, but it will fire both barrels even if you don't load the bottom one - it dry-fires the bottom one then fires the top one. Jarhead wrote.and the mechanical triggers-most guns under $3k have intertial triggers. Interesting TheFirearmEnthusiast Corporal I just found out that the Stoeger Condor, Akkar Churchill and ATA 686 are all made in Turkey Thank you so much everyone for helping me narrow it down I will definitely look into the ATA also, that's for sure. I'm leaning towards it a fair bit at the moment to be honest If it was available today for that price, I would honestly just buy it right awayįor that price, why not, it's like an impulse buy haha $550 for the Stoeger Condor, that’s outstanding! It sounds like that’s the logical thing to do I’ll definitely go down to the fun store and see which shotgun feels better to handle So you had a great experience with both the Akkar Churchill and the ATA Hopefully I’m gonna grow into my shotgun too! Interesting story about “growing into your shotgun” I don't think I'll need the shorter barrel option So just a 30” standard shotgun should be fine I really don’t think I’ll be using the shotgun for hunting However, honestly, I really think that I’ll be using my shotgun for clay target shooting only Okay I will look into the Churchill shotguns as well! It makes sense what you said about finding a shotgun that fits my body well, that feels more comfortable etc I wonder if it’s worth me spending a bit more just to get a brand new miroku I have heard a lot of good things about the Miroku’s However, it does seem that the Miroku’s do have a great reputation The ATA had some advanced features found only on guns in the >$3k range, like the forcing cone and the mechanical triggers-most guns under $3k have intertial triggers. I can't comment on the Stoeger Condor but I doubt it will have a polished forcing cone. The other 2 guns were a Churchill and an older Beretta- both did not have the extended polished forcing cone that the ATA came with. I can't recall the numbers, but those in attendance all agreed I had the best pattern. This was based on firing #9 shot at a pattern board and looking at consistency of the shot spread and counting the fliers outside the bulk of the shot. Then the ATA686SE with the factory extended and polished forcing cone patterned much better than other guns I have fired with a standard 45deg transition between chamber and barrel (aka forcing cone). If you measure accuracy as "patterning well" (shotguns are quite different to rifles and pistols in the accuracy regard.) (Which one is better in terms of accuracy) (Which one is better in terms of accuracy) TheFirearmEnthusiast Corporal If the ATA 686 is definitely better than the Stoeger Condor (in terms of accuracy) The ATA 686 sells for around $1000 I think If the Stoeger Condor will do the job just fine If the Stoeger Condor will allow me to take down clays without too much trouble The Stoeger Condor is very tempting in the sense that it's just so affordable. Start out with what you can afford and feel comfortable with and go from there. Other people at the time had a mixed bag of shotguns. Now in saying that, my mate who went with me was using a Miroku, and a better shot than me, and his shotty also performed well. The guys who were supervising, were seasoned shotgunners, probably hence the high shotties they had. Bugman wrote:Just a bit more info that may help.
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